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Sunday, August 20, 2006

I Hate Predictability

Moved on! Check TheCairoCalls

When I read the title of this post (Ya Farha Matamet) , I thought "Finally, the guy will come down slamming on Israel's violation of the cease fire yesterday. But, I was wrong. In a typical new-con cadet style, the post attacks Iran, the Europeans, and suggest some sort of relation between the two. Can it get any more Reaganesque?
I don't think so.
Ah, and no mention of Israel, or the US whatsoever. Typical!

Moved on!

9 Comments:

To answer ur last point, I mostly make up things from the posts I read!

But seriously, dont u think that the "they must be doing evil things, cause they're evil ppl" line that u used is really the same as the shallow arguments Bush uses everytime he is stuck without his speech notes. Isn't that what led us to pre-emptive wars, which has, at least publicly, no justifiable reasons.
U dont judge somebody until u r sure. Period!

By Blogger TB, at August 20, 2006 2:42 PM  

Just one thing:

You might ask: what makes you sure Hezbollah was getting arms from Syria? Well, what makes me sure it wasn't?

But that's not it. What makes you sure it was? If Israel has evidence, why don't they share it with the world? They were quick to share one million other things. In fact, they trumped about everywhere when they got Arafat's signatures on money going to people that THEY consider terrorists.

Besides, in this breach of Cease-Fire (Kolo mrakez? Ana ba2ool The Last Cease-fire That Was Supposed To Begin A Couple Of Days Ago...) Israel was the one that took action.

Did you know that the two Israeli soldiers who were kidnapped were about to go into a military foray into Lebanon? What makes the situation so different then.

Double Talk. Double Standards. Always.

By Blogger Faisal, at August 20, 2006 2:43 PM  

everytime i hear this man speaking, I think that elections are soon...

the irony is: even then he wont win!

whatever!

By Blogger TB, at August 20, 2006 3:55 PM  

I can't believe that anything those guys write still surprise you Toman Bay, I understand your frustration with the bp and sm, but I think that by now and by the kind of comments posted on their blogs (the most extreme of the extreme of what an extreme fanatical hillbillie/neocon hate fest orgy might be), you'd notice that these people aren't catering to you nor to the people aspiring for the best interests of this country, nor to fairness or justice or to the alleviation of human suffering, where do they come from and what's their agenda? I have no clue and I don't want to start throwing accusations, but I don't think they're from the same Egypt (mentality wise) that you're from. Egyptian neocons, I'm pretty sure that's as oxymoronic as it gets.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 21, 2006 1:29 AM  

I remember in the eighties when i used to watch the news at nine o'clock together with my gandfatherin egypt. It was full of shit about what was going on in nicaragua (i hope i spelled it right, actually i know somebody from nica.. whatever now, anyway) and other stuff. BUT remember the essential part about south africa's apartheid regime. Remember the black police officers beating up the black protesters... bad.. sad. Not just mere virtual oxymorons then. That kind of people will always exist. They'd hope one day they would evolve and take their eventual destined form, but they're feeding on the wrong host, alas.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 21, 2006 2:36 AM  

Still Hany, using your black police officers analogy, what's their explanation for beating their fellow africans, scared to be on the other end of the stick, or self haters, or just trying to please, or abused turned to abusers or hoping for financial rewards for being such good "boys" , or just plain sick, couldn't think of some other reasons nor think of them as excuses.
Also, rest assured, if your two buddies were blogging in the eighties they wouldn't have wasted no chance to redicule or discredit Mandela himself, while singing the praises of the "moral high ground" of the apartheid regime, a phrase they both love to use and twist around to describe anything so hideous or unfair.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 21, 2006 3:37 AM  

BP,
Notice that I was very careful not to accuse you of anything, I just couldn't grasp where do your views come from (and by the way, they're predominantly neocon/likudist views, even if you don't acknowlege or realize that), and I also wasn't trying by any means to dehumanize you, this was an honest to god question to Toman Bay about how he could still get surprised or outraged by what you write after all this time, I had my initial shock with your and the SM's writings, then I became completely numb to them (sorry, but I just don't know how could you rationalize some of your writings, although if a person's clever enough he could rationalize anything), what really dehumanizes you is yourself, by making yourself such an affectionate advocate of occupation, land confiscation, home demolishings, abuses on a daily basis of an entire population with complete legal impunity, how about that for dehumanizing, how about finding yourself on the recieving end of a cluster bomb, how about the only thing left of your sister is a patch of blood spatter, or that indistiguishable piece of goo lying on the rubble of your entire neighborhood was your father five minutes ago, not dehumanizing enough, right?
You're entitled to whatever opinions you might have, but you've also got to accept whatever criticism your opinions might raise, including harsh ones.
I'm really sorry if I've offended you, really didn't mean to, but I still stand by my opinions.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 22, 2006 5:13 AM  

BP,
If you don't advocate those actions (occupation, confiscations, demolitions, consistent random shelling of residential areas, all which leave you with no other conclusion except that they have a higher regard for a cockroach's life than a lebanese or a palestinian)could you please list how many times did you describe the country responsible for those actions (Israel) as having the "moral high ground", or how many times did you take their justifications at face value (the gaza beach incident as an example, and your latest post about their violation of the ceaze fire), and come on, when you criticize Israel, it's always something like you're disappointed in your childhood buddy (like this poll about expelling the palestinians) who was always and will remain the epitome of justice and compassion to you.
And again you're misquoting me, I've never said that antihizballah=pro israel, actually I think that Israel's foolish actions are the ones lending hezballah it's significance, otherwise it'd have been a much less influential group than it is right now.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 22, 2006 11:40 PM  

Bp,
Fair enough, couldn't disagree with anything in this last comment, except that ( and I might be wrong), I don't get this sense of absolute impartiality you're claiming when I read your blog, but again, I migt be wrong, or I might be subconsciously impartial myself.
Peace now.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 23, 2006 7:51 PM  

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