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Sunday, January 08, 2006

Those Guys Should Have Their Own Show - aka The Funniest Political Ad Ever!

Moved on! Check TheCairoCalls

What's worse than somebody who misrepresent the views of others and attack the misrepresentation? Well, somebody who invent a myth, credit it to somebody else, and vehemently attack the myth!
It seems some organization called Facts and Logic About the Middle East (FLAME! It sure tells you something about their male members!) decided to get, you know, creative with history. Here is an excrept from The Skeptic's post about an ad they published on the back page of The Nation:
Until then [1948], the Jews were the Palestinians. There was the Palestinian Brigade of Jewish volunteers in the British World War II Army (at a time when the Palestinian Arabs were in Berlin hatching plans with Adolf Hitler for world conquest and how to kill all the Jews); there was the Palestinian Symphony Orchestra (all Jews, of course); there was The Palestine Post, and so much more.
That's priceless. The Arabs were in Berlin hatching plans with Adolf Hitler for world conquest! That's really up there. You know what, I was supposed to have a lengthy post about all the lies in this ad, but, heck, laugh yourself silly reading this ad, while I recollect myself listening to some tunes of the Palestinian Symphony Orchestra.

update: listen, listen, listen to this "The web of lies and myths that the Arab propaganda machine..." Here are 4 words I thought I'd never hear: the Arab propaganda machine. Man, it gets funnier everytime you read it

Moved on!

15 Comments:

Gotta laugh to keep from crying... or having a stroke of your own. Anyone with a less robust sense of humor might wish to write a letter to the Nation's editors here.

By Anonymous The Skeptic, at January 09, 2006 11:50 AM  

Actually it's true:
There are plenty of links but here is one for starters
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 12:40 PM  

Here you go - here is some more from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mufti_of_Jerusalem
Read the whole thing it is shameful

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 12:48 PM  

Here is some more:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/24/192928.shtml

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 12:50 PM  

More here:
http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2004/04/1175.shtml

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 12:53 PM  

More again:
http://www.geocities.com/martinkramerorg/ThirdReich.htm

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 12:56 PM  

Your on the internet. It's not that hard to hunt down facts. You've been fed a bunch of lies for so long - time to wake up and face reality.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 1:16 PM  

my exact point when I talked about people who cant seperate individual incidents from overarching generalizations. So there was one over enthusiastic mufti who didn't have the common sense to know that arabs were regarded by nazis as lowly as they regarded jews. And the nazis on their part tried to exploit this. So?
Even if this is true, that doen't mean that "Arabs were in Berlin hatching plans with Hitler for world domination"
you are calling one person "arabs"?
You are just making it worse! You are not only liberal with history, you're a bigot! I an pretty sure that there was more than one jew collobrating with the nazis. Read it here, here, and here

By Blogger Tomanbay, at January 09, 2006 3:21 PM  

Gee tomanbay, do you really have to go to conspiracy theory/hate sites for your info.
Why is 'Mein Kampf' and 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' on the best-sellers list in so many Arab countries.
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/antisemitism/
look at this link and see the Hamas Charter and tell me what is the difference between that and Nazism.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 3:58 PM  

tomanbay - the Mufti was Arafats uncle (Yasser Arafat who was born and lived in Egypt till he finished University - hardly a refugee). The Mufti had a large army of Palestinians fighting in Kosovo for the Nazis. He was also reponsible for the death of 400,000 Jews.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 09, 2006 4:01 PM  

I dont depend on those sites for my info. In fact, I didnt know that any jews collobrated with nazis, but it is only logically sound that individual exceptions happen to any rule. And finding sites to support my claim only goes to show that you can support any point of view by sources from the internet.
And if everybody writing about zionism is considered a hater, then you're in a real shit hole (the same one with bin laden and co) because u cant tolerate different opinions than yours
Shalom!

By Blogger Tomanbay, at January 09, 2006 4:36 PM  

Ever hear, that Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one?

The internet is a great source of info and a good teaching tool.

Just remember to verify, verify and verify.

It's not hard to verify facts or stories, but it requires time and effort.

Just remember, if you find a story or such that you agree with, that doesn't make it true.

The same goes the other way around, if you disagree with something, it doesn't make it false.

Growing up is a process of accepting that not everyone thinks like you do, but knowing, that fact, is a good thing.

Diversity makes people search for the truth.

Although, it can get messy sometimes before the truth is found.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

By Blogger Papa Ray, at January 10, 2006 12:44 AM  

well...what should I say?
Thanks? yeah thanks is ok. Thanks for the comment Papa Ray!

By Blogger Tomanbay, at January 10, 2006 2:35 AM  

Although they did not describe it accurately, I'm certain that the Flame! people were referring to "Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the viciously anti-Semitic Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who resided in Berlin as a welcome guest and ally of the Nazis throughout the years of the Holocaust.

In late March 1933, al-Husseini contacted the German consul general in Jerusalem and requested German help in eliminating Jewish settlements in Palestine—offering, in exchange, a pan-Islamic jihad in alliance with Germany against Jews around the world. It was not until 1938, in the aftermath of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s infamous capitulation to Hitler at Munich, that Hajj Amin al-Husseini’s overtures to Nazi Germany were officially reciprocated. But by then the influence of Nazi ideology had already grown significantly throughout the Arab Middle East.

Several of the Arab political parties founded during the 1930s were modeled after the Nazi party, including the Syrian Popular Party and the Young Egypt Society, which were explicitly anti-Semitic in their ideology and programs. The leader of Syria’s Socialist Nationalist Party, Anton Sa’ada, imagined himself an Arab Hitler and placed a swastika on his party’s banner...
"After the defeat of the Axis powers, Hajj Amin al-Husseini escaped indictment as a war criminal at Nuremberg by fleeing to Egypt, where he received political asylum and where he met the young Yasser Arafat, his distant cousin, who became a devoted protégé—to the point that the PLO recruited former Nazis as terrorist instructors. Up until the time of his death, Arafat continued to pay homage to the Grand Mufti as his hero and mentor."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19064

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 10, 2006 11:33 PM  

Here's a fellow who is so busy laughing that he doesn't have to find facts. That's ok. He wouldn't find any to support his ideas anwway. The Jerusalem Post WAS once called the Palestinian Post (was always Jewish owned, though.) The Arab Palestinians, on the other hand, have no unique language or currency or written history, no written history, and most speak with accents from other Arabic countries. If you had gone to Palestine as recently as 1960 and asked an Arab what he thought of Palestinians, he would have told you they are dogs and infidels. ...He would have assumed you were speaking of Jews. Furthermore, Yassir Arafat was the FIRST leader of the arab Palestinians. There's a fact that shouldn't be hard to disprove if it weren't true.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 31, 2006 5:22 AM  

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